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<DIV>One travel consideration is ease. Can people get there direct or with
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<DIV>Tom Cooper</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dtamnet@gmail.com
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:39 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PAO] National Board</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>A few years back, the National Conference was held in Louisville, Kentucky,
a smaller city. Was also more centrally located so many members were able
to drive.</DIV>
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<DIV>What did everyone think about that venue?</DIV>
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<DIV>DAVID A. MILLER, Lt Col, CAP</DIV>
<DIV>Deputy Director of Public Affairs, MOWG</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:24 AM, lockit3 <SPAN
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Thank
you Lt. Col. Copenhaver for bringing this subject up.<BR><BR>The fact of the
matter is, that even if these rates are not "terribly out of<BR>line" for a
conference this size, it is still unaffordable for many of our<BR>members, me
included. If we pay for the meeting hall and any peripheral<BR>rooms needed
for the breakout sessions, or whatever we are calling them this<BR>conference
and the hotel knows it has "X" amount of rooms guaranteed,<BR>concessions
should be able to be reached on the room rate for members. If<BR>the facility
will not make such concessions because it is Las Vegas and they<BR>will get
that rate from someone then let them get it from someone else. We<BR>do not
have to conference in Las Vegas.<BR><BR>First of all, it has been my
experience that if you have time to go to the<BR>activities that are available
outside of the conference, you are not<BR>attending the conference. My answer
that would be take a vacation. While<BR>other cities may not have the outside
venues, they could handle the size of<BR>our event and perhaps for a lesser
price. I have concerns about meeting<BR>somewhere like Vegas anyway. As
concerned as we are about the image of Civil<BR>Air Patrol and the image that
casts on the Air Force, is this really a good<BR>idea.<BR><BR>If we save on
the price of the hall and classrooms, then maybe our fee could<BR>at least
cover the banquet and everyone could attend. A Spaatz cadet from<BR>our Wing
is National Cadet of the Year and most of our Wing members will not<BR>see him
receive the award because we cannot afford the conference let alone<BR>an
additional fee for a banquet that should be included.<BR><BR>I did not intend
this to sound like a gripe session, but sometimes I think<BR>in an effort to
look like an organization of high prestige, we forget that<BR>our members are
volunteers, mostly of middle America. We need to get back to<BR>servicing the
needs of the members who service the needs of our country.<BR><BR>With
respect,<BR><BR><BR>Curtis "Wayne" Hooks 1st Lt.<BR>Civil Air Patrol<BR>FLWG
Online Newsfeed Manager<BR>Group 1 Public Affairs Officer<BR>Group 1
Recruitment and Retention Officer<BR>Tallahassee Composite Squadron<BR>Ser
FL-432<BR>Public Affairs Officer<BR>Recruitment and Retention Officer<BR>
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On Behalf Of Wm and<BR>Kandyce Lewis<BR>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 1:31
PM<BR>To: 'CAP Public Affairs Officers'<BR>Subject: Re: [PAO] National
Board<BR><BR>I have done conferences for our wing and I don't have prices like
that. You<BR>can get hotels to not charge for the the rooms if you agree
to so many rooms<BR>being rented by members, and guaranteeing so much in other
costs. I know as<BR>I have done that in the past. You just keep
telling them you need a less<BR>amount. I didn't check the cost of the
dinner but I thought $70 last year<BR>was out of line for our members.
And having gone many others must have felt<BR>so as well as there were lots of
members eating at other places during the<BR>banquet as I saw them out and
about. I realize we have more guest we may<BR>pay for national
conferences but it can't be that much more. I suspect less<BR>and less
members are going to national boards.<BR><BR>And yes as members get closer to
retirement they are looking at those costs.<BR><BR>Kandyce Lewis, Lt
Col.<BR>WA Wing Staff<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
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On Behalf Of Doug Barth<BR>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 8:50 AM<BR>To: 'CAP
Public Affairs Officers'<BR>Subject: Re: [PAO] National Board<BR><BR>I totally
agree with Lt Col Copenhaver,<BR><BR>In particular, as I move toward
retirement and have more time to commit to<BR>my volunteer activities, I also
am very cost sensitive.<BR><BR>While I understand and encourage the value of
face-to-face conferences, I<BR>think we should look more extensively into
webinar/webex events, both to<BR>reduce cost to the membership and to increase
the availability of these<BR>types of topics across CAP. Or perhaps
video tape the presentations and<BR>post them to CAP website. I am not
aware that we do that.<BR><BR><BR>Major Doug Barth, CAP<BR>Group
II<BR>MDWG<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
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On Behalf Of Karen<BR>Copenhaver<BR>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 9:44
AM<BR>To: <A
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[PAO] National Board<BR><BR>Dear Fellow PAOs,<BR><BR>As we continue our
volunteer commitment to an outstanding organization, we<BR>gladly donate our
resources to train and participate. Across the years, we<BR>have
attended conferences for our wing, region and our national board, and<BR>the
cost has slowly increased, mainly because of the economic posture of
the<BR>time. However, after reviewing the current cost associated with our
national<BR>board, personally I am voicing a concern of how many members can
afford this<BR>astronomical cost. Registration - $205 per person plus
room of more than<BR>$100+ per night (don't forget tax and tax); (plus the
extra days lodging for<BR>a total of 5 nights if you stay for the entire
event) then if you plan on<BR>attending our PAO Academy it is $45, and
if you want to attend the FEMA<BR>course it is $20, then Incorporating the
Medal of Honor Character<BR>Development Program into Character Development for
$20 and Grant Writing for<BR>$10. We can easily add these costs to be
exorbitant for many. I've<BR>attended many National Board Conferences,
but never experienced such fees,<BR>and would like to know what the
"registration" is suppose to cover, if not<BR>the work labs, and associated
hand-outs.<BR><BR>I would like to see a more reasonable cost for our National
Board<BR>Conferences in the future. We do not necessarily need a place
like Las<BR>Vegas, Washington or Atlanta, or the like, as we do not have the
numbers of<BR>attendees to support that type of location as we once
did<BR>with totals of upward of 2,000+ attendees. We have
some locations<BR>that could support the size of our event, with less expense
to our members,<BR>such as Charlotte, NC, and communities of that size
across our country.<BR>Our overall cost has escalated to a level whereby one
must truly set aside<BR>additional funds up to more than $1,000 to attend, and
that does not include<BR>airline tickets, which are escalating too. I
don't know how many of you<BR>join me in these sentiments, but we need a more
economical platform for our<BR>national board conferences.<BR><BR>One other
comment, wouldn't it be nice to have a non-military speaker like<BR>Bill Cosby
to entertain and inspire us to continue our service? As a<BR>volunteer
organization, who gladly gives and gives so much to our<BR>communities and
nation, I would hope that an individual like this would not<BR>charge, but to
have airfare and other related costs (room and meals) to be<BR>covered to get
him/her to be our speaker.<BR><BR>Realizing our organizational funds are
somewhat limited and reduced greatly<BR>across the board, we could certainly
reduce our cost by holding our national<BR>conference in a less costly
location, and it would increase the numbers who<BR>can afford to attend.
It indeed is a great experience that everyone should<BR>have the opportunity
to attend. The labs, breakout sessions, or<BR>workshops... what ever
they are called, are always phenomenal. The<BR>opportunity to network
with your fellow members and national staff is<BR>something that you
will always remember as you also establish a contact and<BR>many times lasting
friendships. If you can.....<BR>please attend as it is an experience
that you'll want again and again.<BR><BR>Thank you for your commitment and
dedication to one of the best<BR>organizations of which you could ever be a
part.<BR><BR>Respectfully,<BR>Karen L. Copenhaver, Lt Col, CAP<BR>Deputy
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