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    Frankly, I have a hard time understanding why we are using terms
    like "Director" at all in a paramilitary organizational chart,
    especially at the Wing level.  It seems to have been adopted for use
    at random for various jobs that have vastly different scopes.  I
    could sort of understand if "Director" signified a position that
    actually supervised some other staff officers, but that isn't always
    the case.  Seems like almost every wing staff officer in Arkansas is
    a Director.  <br>
    Blake Sasse<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/25/2014 11:38 AM, Arthur Woodgate
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">CAPR
            20-1 was last updated Jan 2013. Since the DPA/PAO issue at
            the wing level has been a fact for a number of years, I
            believe we can assume that NH</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Q
            “prefers” PAO for wing, over the “obligatory” DPA for
            region.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Arthur
            ~<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cap-pao-bounces@lists.sempervigilans.org">cap-pao-bounces@lists.sempervigilans.org</a>
            [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cap-pao-bounces@lists.sempervigilans.org">mailto:cap-pao-bounces@lists.sempervigilans.org</a>] <b>On
              Behalf Of </b>Lt Col Paul Cianciolo<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 25, 2014 11:07 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> CAP Public Affairs Officers<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [PAO] Title of Public Affairs Person at
            Wing Level<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Sure, but
              CAPR 20-1 also "shows" that the PAO reports under the
              chief of staff on the org chart section whereas CAPR 190-1
              and CAPR 20-1 "states" that the PAO report directly under
              the commander. Since within CAPR 20-1, there are two
              conflicting references to public affairs, one would assume
              that this reg only serves as a guide rather than setting
              everything in stone.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Also, eServices let's a wing assign
            either a director or officer under PA, so that is another
            indicator that it is open to creative license.<br>
            <br>
            Paul<o:p></o:p></p>
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                v/r<br>
                --<br>
                <b>PAUL S. CIANCIOLO, Lt Col, CAP<br>
                  Public Affairs Officer<br>
                  National Capital Wing</b><o:p></o:p></p>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Cell: 301-751-2011<br>
                  Work: 202-385-9599 (@FAA)<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Arthur
              Woodgate <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:awoodgate@austin.rr.com" target="_blank">awoodgate@austin.rr.com</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">This
                    is governed by CAPR 20-1.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Director
                    of PA is allowed only for region.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From
                    wing on down, it’s [level] PAO, thus Wing PAO, Group
                    PAO, Squadron PAO. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">There
                    is a clause in CAPR 20-1 that states the CC “can
                    expand the table of organization to make it more
                    efficient” or words to that effect. This is meant in
                    a “downward” sense, not “upward” that involves
                    taking on the title(s) of a higher HQ.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Arthur
                    ~</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">ARTHUR
                    E. WOODGATE, Lt. Col., CAP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Director
                    of Public Affairs & Director of Organizational
                    Excellence</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Southwest
                    Region</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Civil
                    Air Patrol - "Citizens Serving Communities"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:512.432.0231"
                      target="_blank">512.432.0231</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:512.547.6997"
                      target="_blank">512.547.6997</a> <<< VoIP
                    (secondary)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:512.567.1935"
                      target="_blank">512.567.1935</a> (cell - not
                    always on)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:awoodgate@austin.rr.com"
                      target="_blank">awoodgate@austin.rr.com</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:LtColWoodgate@gmail.com"
                      target="_blank">LtColWoodgate@gmail.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:cap-pao-bounces@lists.sempervigilans.org"
                      target="_blank">cap-pao-bounces@lists.sempervigilans.org</a>
                    [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:cap-pao-bounces@lists.sempervigilans.org"
                      target="_blank">cap-pao-bounces@lists.sempervigilans.org</a>]
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Kipp<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:16 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> CAP-PAO<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> [PAO] Title of Public Affairs Person
                    at Wing Level</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'm
                          seeing increasing use of the title "Director
                          of Public Affairs" being used at the Wing
                          level. In my former wing I was Director of
                          Public Affairs. In my current wing the CC
                          doesn't like it so I am the PAO.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Technically,
                          that title is used at Region and higher.
                          However, logically if other wing staff
                          officers are "Director of" then it follows
                          that for parity at the Wing level it should
                          also be Director. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                          wold like to hear your comments.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Bruce
                                  Kipp, Major, CAP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Public
                                  Affairs Officer</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">SD
                                  Wing Civil Air Patrol</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue"><a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="tel:605-261-4507"
                                      target="_blank">605-261-4507</a></span></u></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Email:
                                  <span style="color:blue"><a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:paa.sdwg@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">paa.sdwg@gmail.com</a></span></span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Website: <a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://www.sdcap.us/"
                                    target="_blank">www.sdcap.us</a></span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a
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Script";color:#002060;text-decoration:none"><img id="_x0000_i1025"
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                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="https://www.facebook.com/SDWingCAP"
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